{"id":58862,"date":"2026-07-16T21:00:58","date_gmt":"2026-07-16T20:00:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thetab.com\/realityshrine\/?p=58862"},"modified":"2026-07-16T16:28:28","modified_gmt":"2026-07-16T15:28:28","slug":"heres-where-killian-and-hayley-stand-after-those-vile-text-messages-on-the-ultimatum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thetab.com\/realityshrine\/2026\/07\/16\/heres-where-killian-and-hayley-stand-after-those-vile-text-messages-on-the-ultimatum\/","title":{"rendered":"Here&#8217;s where Killian and Hayley stand after those vile text messages on The Ultimatum"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/thetab.com\/realityshrine\/2026\/07\/16\/hayley-has-a-huge-crash-out-on-the-ultimatum-so-lets-get-to-know-her-properly\/\">Hayley<\/a> discovered a vile group chat on <a href=\"https:\/\/thetab.com\/realityshrine\/2026\/07\/15\/the-ultimatums-killian-is-a-real-estate-agent-so-lets-peek-into-his-rich-lifestyle\/\">Killian<\/a>&#8216;s phone on <a href=\"https:\/\/thetab.com\/realityshrine\/2026\/07\/16\/the-ultimatums-jebin-breaks-silence-on-that-explosive-secret-note-scene-in-new-video\/\">The Ultimatum<\/a>, in which his friends were being really gross about their relationship and how he&#8217;d &#8220;down-graded&#8221;. Anyway, she called him out on it during their trial marriage, so where do they stand now?<\/p>\n<h2>Inside Killian&#8217;s group chat on The Ultimatum<\/h2>\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" style=\"background: #FFF; border: 0; border-radius: 3px; box-shadow: 0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width: 540px; min-width: 326px; padding: 0; width: calc(100% - 2px);\" data-instgrm-captioned=\"\" data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/reel\/Daz7_yDlGBV\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\">\n<div style=\"padding: 16px;\">\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: row; align-items: center;\">\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 50%; flex-grow: 0; height: 40px; margin-right: 14px; width: 40px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: column; flex-grow: 1; justify-content: center;\">\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; margin-bottom: 6px; width: 100px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; width: 60px;\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"padding: 19% 0;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"display: block; height: 50px; margin: 0 auto 12px; width: 50px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-top: 8px;\">\n<div style=\"color: #3897f0; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 550; line-height: 18px;\">View this post on Instagram<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"padding: 12.5% 0;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: row; margin-bottom: 14px; align-items: center;\">\n<div>\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 50%; height: 12.5px; width: 12.5px; transform: translateX(0px) translateY(7px);\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; height: 12.5px; transform: rotate(-45deg) translateX(3px) translateY(1px); width: 12.5px; flex-grow: 0; margin-right: 14px; margin-left: 2px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; 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flex-grow: 1; justify-content: center; margin-bottom: 24px;\">\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; margin-bottom: 6px; width: 224px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; width: 144px;\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #c9c8cd; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px; margin-bottom: 0; margin-top: 8px; overflow: hidden; padding: 8px 0 7px; text-align: center; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;\"><a style=\"color: #c9c8cd; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 17px; text-decoration: none;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/reel\/Daz7_yDlGBV\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">A post shared by The Ultimatum (@ultimatumnetflix)<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script>Hayley called Killian &#8220;beyond disrespectful&#8221; after finding messages, which involved his friends saying, &#8220;What an L going from a big-boobed blonde to a flat-chested brunette.&#8221; Killian also said a friend &#8220;mentioned the \u2018gang bang&#8221;, because &#8220;he had to make it worse.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>He wishes he&#8217;d shut the chat down<\/h2>\n<p>Although Killian claimed he didn&#8217;t even say anything, he does regret how he went about it. \u201cI wish I had stood up for [Hayley], especially with the body-shaming thing,\u201d he told <a href=\"https:\/\/www.netflix.com\/tudum\/articles\/the-ultimatum-marry-or-move-on-season-4-hayley-killian-group-chat-text\">Tudum<\/a>. \u201cI don\u2019t want her to feel down about herself,&#8221; but he doesn&#8217;t think she&#8217;s innocent, either.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;No one has spoken once about how [Hayley] was invading privacy,\u201d he said. \u201cIf you hadn\u2019t been insecure, and you hadn\u2019t been invading my privacy and zooming in on my phone, we would\u2019ve never been here. As for Hayley, she said: \u201cI felt so betrayed. We were great friends.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2>Somehow, Killian and Hayley seem civil?!<\/h2>\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" style=\"background: #FFF; border: 0; border-radius: 3px; box-shadow: 0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width: 540px; min-width: 326px; padding: 0; width: calc(100% - 2px);\" data-instgrm-captioned=\"\" data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/reel\/Dayl6ZVJ5Tv\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\">\n<div style=\"padding: 16px;\">\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: row; align-items: center;\">\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 50%; flex-grow: 0; height: 40px; margin-right: 14px; width: 40px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: column; flex-grow: 1; justify-content: center;\">\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; margin-bottom: 6px; width: 100px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; width: 60px;\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"padding: 19% 0;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"display: block; height: 50px; margin: 0 auto 12px; width: 50px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-top: 8px;\">\n<div style=\"color: #3897f0; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 550; line-height: 18px;\">View this post on Instagram<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"padding: 12.5% 0;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: row; margin-bottom: 14px; align-items: center;\">\n<div>\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 50%; height: 12.5px; width: 12.5px; transform: translateX(0px) translateY(7px);\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; height: 12.5px; transform: rotate(-45deg) translateX(3px) translateY(1px); width: 12.5px; flex-grow: 0; margin-right: 14px; margin-left: 2px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 50%; height: 12.5px; width: 12.5px; transform: translateX(9px) translateY(-18px);\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"margin-left: 8px;\">\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 50%; flex-grow: 0; height: 20px; width: 20px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"width: 0; height: 0; border-top: 2px solid transparent; border-left: 6px solid #f4f4f4; border-bottom: 2px solid transparent; transform: translateX(16px) translateY(-4px) rotate(30deg);\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"margin-left: auto;\">\n<div style=\"width: 0px; border-top: 8px solid #F4F4F4; border-right: 8px solid transparent; transform: translateY(16px);\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; flex-grow: 0; height: 12px; width: 16px; transform: translateY(-4px);\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"width: 0; height: 0; border-top: 8px solid #F4F4F4; border-left: 8px solid transparent; transform: translateY(-4px) translateX(8px);\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: column; flex-grow: 1; justify-content: center; margin-bottom: 24px;\">\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; margin-bottom: 6px; width: 224px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; width: 144px;\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #c9c8cd; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px; margin-bottom: 0; margin-top: 8px; overflow: hidden; padding: 8px 0 7px; text-align: center; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;\"><a style=\"color: #c9c8cd; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 17px; text-decoration: none;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/reel\/Dayl6ZVJ5Tv\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">A post shared by Thekilliangrondin (@thekilliangrondin)<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script>\u00a0Killian told Hayley on her Instagram comments, \u201cYou right! Don\u2019t stress nothinnn.\u201d She said in a new video GRWM, \u201cWe filmed for nine weeks. You\u2019re watching, what, maybe nine hours? Obviously there are going to be things that didn\u2019t make it into the season.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That\u2019s not me saying, \u2018Don\u2019t judge me before you watch it,\u2019 because trust me, there were moments where I had my hand over my mouth watching, and I was like, \u2018Girl, you look crazy,&#8217;\u201d she added. They now both follow each other on Instagram, as well.<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and also she claimed he said he&#8217;d &#8220;f*** her right now if she wasn&#8217;t so modest and respects herself as much as she does,&#8221; which he denied. However, she&#8217;s adamant he did. &#8220;What do I gain out of lying about that?\u201d Hayley responded. \u201cI know my truth.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><i>For all the latest reality TV cast member news, scandals, gossip and updates \u2013 like <\/i><i><span draggable=\"true\"><a href=\"https:\/\/realitytvshrine.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Reality Shrine<\/a><\/span><\/i><i> on <\/i><i><span draggable=\"true\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/realityshrineofficial?rdid=TzQu2kEd2cUqU4rD&amp;share_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fshare%2F14zX5cKubf%2F#\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Facebook<\/a><\/span><\/i><i>.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As if she would ever forgive him for 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